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Bericht door FlaFlu » do okt 05, 2006 1:16 am

Ossegal schreef:Vokkin' saaie sport. :sleepey:
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Bericht door Feest » do okt 05, 2006 2:20 pm

Schitterende sport. Tactiek, nuances, concentratieverslapping is dodelijk, geweldige tradities en New York is gewoon Yankee-town. :yes:

Gisteravond trouwens een rain out, dus spelen ze vandaag om 1 uur ET. Da's perfect voor moi. :yes:

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Bericht door Feest » do okt 05, 2006 9:25 pm

Fuck this. Yankee-middle relief gaat ze zo weer opbreken.

Met 1-1 naar Motown.

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Bericht door Feest » do okt 05, 2006 9:29 pm

O ja: A-rod. :pukey:

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Bericht door Dubbel » do okt 05, 2006 10:13 pm

Gaat de broer van Aad de Mos nog pitchen in deze series?

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Bericht door Dubbel » zo okt 08, 2006 1:23 am

SteefNYC ... X'C

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Bericht door jabu » wo okt 11, 2006 7:55 am

Steef schreef:Schitterende sport. Tactiek, nuances, concentratieverslapping is dodelijk, geweldige tradities en New York is gewoon Yankee-town. :yes:
Ik vrees dat je daar momenteel niet helemaal gelijk in hebt:
De beste van New York

NEW YORK - De honkballers van de New York Mets stonden er zelf ook van te kijken. Niet de Yankees maar zij zitten bij de laatste vier van de play-offs en hebben nog een kans om de titel naar de Big Apple te halen.

Ze waren dé grote favoriet voorafgaand aan de play-offs. Met gemak zouden de Yankees hun eerste titel sinds 2000, toen in de World Series werd afgerekend met de Mets, ophalen. Zeker omdat aarstrivaal Boston Red Sox de play-offs niet wist te halen, moesten de Bronx Bombers met gemak de finaleserie kunnen halen, waarin opnieuw een duel met de Mets mogelijk zou zijn. Maar tot een nieuwe Subway Series, zoals wedstrijden tussen de New Yorkse teams worden genoemd, kwam het niet.

In de serie wedstrijden tegen de Detroit Tigers in de eerste ronde ging het helemaal mis met de Yankees en voor het eerst in achttien jaar hielden de Mets het langer vol in de play-offs dan de ploeg die in haar historie al 26 keer kampioen werd. ,,Dat was een verrassing,’’ vertelde Omar Minaya, general manager van de Mets. ,,De honkbalwereld was verbaasd. Ik dacht dat zij op papier het beste team van de play-offs hadden. Het beste team dat ik ooit heb gezien, misschien wel het beste uit de geschiedenis.’’

Voor zijn eigen team golden dat soort kwalificaties lange tijd niet. De winnaar van de World Series van 1969 en 1986 verbleekte in de schaduw van de veel succesvollere Yankees. Minaya werd in 2005 aangesteld na een seizoen waarin de Mets slechts 71 duels hadden gewonnen en er twintig meer verloren. Samen met de van de Yankees overgekomen manager Willie Randolph, die bij de stadgenoot twee titels als speler vergaarde en ook nog eens vier als coach, smeedde hij een nieuw team met routiniers als Pedro Martinez, Carlos Beltran en Carlos Delgado. Voor het eerst sinds 2000 schaarde het team zich dit seizoen bij de beste acht van de competitie.

,,Het honkbal uit de National League is het enige waar ze in New York over zullen praten,’’ sprak Minaya daarbij verwijzend naar de Yankees die in de American League uitkomen. Toch zijn de Yankees nog niet uit de schijnwerpers verdwenen na het verlies van de Detroit Tigers.

Integendeel. De Yankees, die alweer zes jaar geleden voor het laatst de titel wonnen, halen nog elke dag de sportpagina’s van de Amerikaanse kranten. Het gonst immers van de geruchten dat de excentrieke eigenaar van de Yankees, George Steinbrenner, coach Joe Torre snel de laan uit zal sturen.
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Bericht door Feest » wo okt 11, 2006 9:37 am

New York is en blijft Yankee-town. Mets zijn voor Long Island en een klein gedeelte Queens.

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Bericht door Feest » wo okt 11, 2006 10:06 pm

Lidle dies as plane crashes into Manhattan high-riseESPN.com news services


NEW YORK -- A small plane piloted by New York Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle crashed into a 50-story condominium tower Wednesday on Manhattan's Upper East Side, killing at least four people, authorities said.

Lidle died in the crash.

The twin-engine plane came through a hazy, cloudy sky and hit the 20th floor of The Belaire -- a red-brick tower overlooking the East River, about five miles from the World Trade Center -- with a loud bang, touching off a raging fire that cast a pillar of black smoke over the city and sent flames shooting from four windows on two adjoining floors.

Large crowds gathered in the street in the largely wealthy New York neighborhood, with many people in tears and some trying to reach loved ones by cell phone.

"I was worried the building would explode, so I got out of there fast," said Lori Claymont, who fled an adjoining building in sweatpants.

Young May Cha, a 23-year-old Cornell University medical student, said she was walking back from the grocery store down 72nd Street when she saw an object out of the corner of her eye.

"I just saw something come across the sky and crash into that building," she said. Cha said there appeared to be smoke coming from behind the aircraft, and "it looked like it was flying erraticaly for the short time that I saw it."

"The explosion was very small. I was not threatened for my life," she added.

Richard Drutman, a professional photographer who lives on the 11th floor, said he was talking on the telephone when he felt the building shake.

"There was a huge explosion. I looked out my window and saw what appeared to be pieces of wings, on fire, falling from the sky," Drutman said. He and his girlfriend quickly evacuated the building.

The plane left New Jersey's Teterboro Airport, just across the Hudson River from the city, at 2:30 p.m., about 15 minutes before the crash, according to officials at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which operates the airport. But they said they did not where the aircraft was headed.

FAA spokeswoman Diane Spitaliere said the plane was apparently not in contact with air traffic controllers; pilots flying small planes by sight are not required to be in contact.

The National Transportation Safety Board sent a team to investigate.

Former NTSB director Jim Hall said in a telephone interview he doesn't understand how a plane could get so close to a New York City building after Sept. 11.

"We're under a high alert and you would assume that if something like this happened, people would have known about it before it occurred, not after," Hall said.

Mystery writer Carol Higgins Clark, daughter of author Mary Higgins Clark, lives on the 38th floor and was coming home in a cab when she saw the smoke.

"Thank goodness I wasn't at my apartment writing at the time," she said. She described the building's residents as a mix of actors, doctors, lawyers, writers and people with second homes.

Sgt. Claudette Hutchinson, a spokeswoman for the North American Aerospace Defense Command in Colorado Springs, Colo., said fighter jets "are airborne over numerous U.S. cities and while every indication is that this is an accident, we see this as a prudent measure at this time."

However, all three New York City-area airports continued to operate normally, Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Jim Peters said. In Washington, White House spokesman Tony Fratto said neither President Bush nor Vice President Dick Cheney was moved to secure locations.

"All indications are that is an unfortunate accident," said Yolanda Clark, a spokeswoman for Homeland Security's Transportation Security Administration. She said there was "no specific or credible intelligence suggesting an imminent threat to the homeland, at this time."

The crash struck fear in a city devastated by the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Sirens echoed across the neighborhood as about 170 firefighters rushed in along with emergency workers and ambulances. Broken glass and debris were strewn around the neighborhood.

"There's a sense of helplessness," said Sandy Teller, watching from his apartment a block away. "Cots and gurneys, waiting. It's a mess."

The tower was built in the late 1980s and is situated near Sotheby's auction house. It has 183 apartments, many of which sell for more than $1 million.

Several lower floors are occupied by doctors and administrative offices, as well as guest facilities for family members of patients at the Hospital for Special Surgery, hospital spokeswoman Phyllis Fisher said.

No patients were in the high-rise building and operations at the hospital a block away were not affected, Fisher said.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

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Bericht door FlaFlu » zo okt 15, 2006 12:54 am

Detroit naar de World Series.

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Bericht door Dubbel » zo okt 15, 2006 1:19 am

Het, ahum, uitgebuste Detroit... :blush:

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Bericht door jabu » ma okt 23, 2006 9:28 pm

Rogers' dirty hand overshadows his Game 2 brilliance

DETROIT -- Kenny Rogers threw eight shutout innings in a World Series game on Sunday night.

OK, now that we've got that little item out of the way, let's move on to the biggest Kenny Rogers story of the night:

Dirtgate.

When a 41-year-old man does something in a World Series game that hadn't been done in 101 years, you want to turn that into an uplifting tale that could inspire old guys everywhere to go sprinting out into the nearest parking lot to start working on their cut fastballs.

But this can't be that kind of story.

When a pitcher who, a mere three weeks ago, was carrying around the highest career postseason ERA in the history of baseball then goes and spins off his 23rd consecutive scoreless October inning, you want to tell the world how he finally rewrote the script of his lifetime.

But we're having trouble with that angle, too.

That's because something so bizarre went on at Comerica Park on Sunday night that we need a Congressional committee, the cast of "Law and Order" and at least one descendant of Sherlock Holmes to sort it all out.

Somewhere in the midst of this Dirtgate saga, the Tigers beat the Cardinals 3-1 Sunday night to even the World Series at a game apiece. So at least that's one story everybody involved got straight.

Too bad it was the only one.

As for Kenny Rogers and that gunk on his pitching hand? Step right up and throw your own conspiracy theory out there. It has to beat the 1,001 explanations that came spilling out of the mouths of all involved.

So what do we know? That Rogers was spotted by the Fox cameras in the first inning with, well, something mucked all over his pitching hand. We also know that, by the second inning, he'd washed whatever it was off his hand.

Since he then twirled seven more shutout innings after he cleaned up his act, maybe we should be investigating what was in that water -- as opposed to what that water washed away. But we're resisting that temptation, at least for now.

We learned in journalism class that you should always start these tales with the person involved. So fine. We'll let Rogers give his fascinating version of these events.

What was on his hand? "A big clump of dirt," Rogers said.

And where did that clump come from? It was "dirt and rosin" he used to "rub up the baseball," and it was "left on my hand when I rubbed them up."

Yet even after warming up and then throwing 18 pitches to five different hitters in the first inning, he still "didn't know it was there." But then "they told me, and I took it off, and it wasn't a big deal."

Oh. So the umpires told him to "take it off"? Well, no, he claimed. He "just saw it." He "didn't know it was there until after the inning." So he simply "took it off, and it wasn't a big deal."

And that shot that the TV cameras showed of Rogers in deep second-inning conversation with plate ump Alfonso Marquez? "He just came and told me how much time I had between the innings."

Oh. So Marquez never mentioned that humongous clump of dirt? "No."

All righty then. So that's the end of it. Right? A clump of dirt happened to appear on his pitching hand, and he wiped it off, and then went back to being Sandy Koufax.

Or maybe not.

Because his own manager, Mr. Jim Leyland, said the umpires "made Kenny wash his hands." And Steve Palermo, an MLB umpiring supervisor, reported that Marquez "asked Kenny to remove that dirt, so there wouldn't be any question as far as that controversy."
Great. Took care of that controversy stuff in no time flat, didn't they? Cleared it right up.

So this should be the point where we should be moving on to talk about Rogers' sensational evening on the old pitcher's mound, right? Nope. Sorry. Not quite yet.

Because if Rogers was so darned innocent, how come he was trying so hard to deny everything except his pitch count?


But what was he denying, exactly? Nobody ever did actually accuse him of anything, except yelling at his teammates louder than their mothers ever did.

If the Cardinals had just accused the guy of playing dirty instead of merely being dirty, we would all at least know what the heck we were dealing with here. But they never did. And given Cardinals manager Tony La Russa's normally feisty in-game persona, that doesn't make much sense, either.

When Cardinals left fielder Preston Wilson was asked a what-if-Rogers-was-cheating kind of question, he replied: "Anybody out there doing something [illegal] should be searched."

But of course, Rogers wasn't searched -- because the Cardinals never asked the umpires to search him. So Wilson, like the rest of the occupants of his clubhouse, was doing his best to backpedal away from anything that remotely resembled a pointed finger.

"It really wasn't a big topic of conversation," he said. "If we were thinking about anything other than trying to have good at-bats, it would be taking us away from what we're supposed to be doing."

Yeah, imagine if they had been thinking about what that slop was on Rogers' hand? What would they have done -- swung and missed at all 99 pitches he threw? Good thing they kept their focus -- and at least got two hits.

By the way, we'll get around to telling you how cool it was that a guy this old could give up just those two piddly hits any minute now, too. But sorry. There's still a tad more subterfuge to uncover here.

Because, according to Tigers players, the mere suggestion -- but not the actual accusation -- that Rogers might have been up to something apparently got Leyland more stoked up during the game than he let on afterward.

Closer Todd Jones reported that when he arrived in the dugout in the second inning, Leyland was complaining that "the Cardinals hitters were saying he was doing something to the ball, but nobody wanted to check him. And Jim was like, 'Wait, you can't have your cake and eat it, too. If you guys think that, you've got to check him.' I mean, they can't plant the seed and try to mess with Kenny. … You've either got to not say anything or you've got to go out and check him."

Yeah. Wouldn't you think? But instead -- either because they weren't sure, or because Rogers wiped away the evidence, or because La Russa didn't want to mess with his buddy Leyland -- they left us all dangling, not knowing what to think.

And that's not good, seeing as how the guy is having one of the greatest postseasons in the history of the universe and we'd sure like to know what to think about it.

So with all this mystery swirling and hurting so many of our heads, Jones, media-friendly guy that he is, attempted to clear all this up.

"It could have been anything on his hand," Jones said. "It could have been chocolate cake."

Chocolate cake, huh? Oh, of course. He probably just never wiped the cake off his hands because he was steamed that it wasn't served a la mode. But wait, we protested. Was chocolate cake even being served Sunday in the Tigers' food spread?

"Well, no," Jones confessed. "But there was steak and gravy. So the gravy could have been on there."

Yeah, sure. And probably a few mashed potato shreds, too. No way Rogers would have noticed that, either, of course.

But as absurd as this fiasco may have been, a World Series game did take place all around it Sunday night. And that's probably something we ought to note, too.

Craig Monroe homered in the first inning of that game, to put the Tigers ahead to stay. And that's worth mentioning, because Monroe's homers in each of the first two games made him the first guy to go deep in two straight World Series games since Barry Bonds in 2002.

We should also say a word about Detroit's Carlos Guillen, who singled, doubled and tripled in this game. He was the first player to do that in a World Series game since Paul O'Neill six years ago.

And Jones made quite an impact on the proceedings himself. Can't ignore that. He relieved Rogers in the ninth, got the first two outs and then let four straight hitters reach base -- one of them because he managed to avoid catching a Juan Encarnacion two-hopper back to the mound.

"He's going to take a little PFP [pitchers' fielding practice] before he gets on the bus tonight," Leyland quipped later. "I'll tell you that."

But before his PFP session, Jones stopped hyperventilating long enough to retire Yadier Molina with the bases loaded. And when he did, the win belonged to the man who was the story of the day in more ways than one: Kenny Rogers.

OK, here comes the good stuff:

Rogers became the oldest starting pitcher ever to win a World Series game. And he has now held opposing hitters to an .029 batting average (1-for-34) with runners on base in this postseason.

Before he threw his first pitch this October, he had allowed 20 earned runs in 20 1/3 career postseason innings. Three starts later, in his new Motor City incarnation, he has allowed zero runs in 23 innings.

There has been no real compelling explanation for why he's been able to do that, either. But he's definitely doing a lot more primal screaming now than he ever did -- after every single out.

"He scares me sometimes," first baseman Sean Casey said. "I get ground balls over there, and he's yapping. When we're turning two, he's yelling, 'TURNIT, TURNIT, TURNIT, TURNIT.' I'm like, 'Man, you're going to have a heart attack out there. Take it easy.'"

But Rogers keeps saying this scream therapy is fueling this astounding run through October. So he's not stopping now, not after three consecutive scoreless October starts of 7 2/3 (against the Yankees), 7 1/3 (A's) and 8 (Cardinals) innings.

Only one other pitcher in history ever made three starts that long in one postseason without allowing a run. And that was the legendary Christy Mathewson, who fired three straight complete-game shutouts -- as recently as 1905. Mathewson's streak of 27 straight shutout innings in one postseason is now just four innings away.

"Christy Mathewson?" Jones gulped. "He was probably a better fielder than me -- even now. And he's been dead for how many years?"

Uh, that would be precisely 81 years, as a matter of fact. May his glove -- and record -- rest in peace.

It's funny, though. We don't find ourselves sitting here wondering what Mathewson had on his hand back then -- possibly due to lack of videotape. But unfortunately, now we'll always be left to wonder what Kenny Rogers had on his hand. And here, in what's supposed to be the best of times in his sport, that's what stinks the most about this unsavory World Series evening.

See, it wasn't just his pitching hand that Rogers soiled on Sunday night. It was, regrettably, his whole sport. And that's a stain that will take a lot longer to wash off.
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Bericht door Dubbel » za okt 28, 2006 1:50 am

Is bij jullie ook iedereen voor de Cards? Het lijkt hier plotseling wel dat iedereen uit St Louis komt of er familie heeft wonen.

Eerste inning van game 5 is bezig. Werper Verlander van de Tigers is 'all over de place'.

Edit: maar hij komt ermee weg...

Maar de Cardinals winnen wel de partij, en de Series!

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Bericht door Dubbel » vr mar 30, 2007 9:34 pm

Komend weekend brandt de MLB weer los! Zijn jullie er allemaal klaar voor?

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Dr. Living Stoned schreef::dubbel: = Afbeelding
I'M NOT A COMPLETE IDIOT!
...some parts are missing

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Bericht door aveslacker » vr apr 06, 2007 1:31 pm

Dubbel schreef:Komend weekend brandt de MLB weer los! Zijn jullie er allemaal klaar voor?
Ik wel. ;)
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Bericht door Monkey Tonk » zo apr 08, 2007 9:06 am

1 unit on underdogs, and to make 1 unit on favorites.
Voorbeeld: 100 op Cleveland voor 130 winst, and 165 op Detroit voor 100 winst.

8 April:
Pittsburgh +103
Cleveland +130 (2nd game)
Detroit -165
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Bericht door Dr. Living Stoned » zo apr 08, 2007 9:08 am

Monkey Tonk schreef:Daar gaat ie dan.

8 April:
Pittsburgh +103
Cleveland +130 (2nd game)
Detroit -165
huh?
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Bericht door Monkey Tonk » zo apr 08, 2007 9:12 am

Baseball is oersaai zonder inleg, dus maken we het wat interessanter. :D

Heb het nooit zo serieus genomen, dus we kijken waar het schip strandt.

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Bericht door Monkey Tonk » zo apr 08, 2007 10:14 pm

Monkey Tonk schreef:1 unit on underdogs, and to make 1 unit on favorites.
Voorbeeld: 100 op Cleveland voor 130 winst, and 165 op Detroit voor 100 winst.

8 April:
Pittsburgh +103
Cleveland +130 (2nd game)
Detroit -165

8 April:
Pittsburgh +103 W +103
Cleveland +130 (2nd game) Postponed
Detroit -165 W +100

Season record 2-0 +203

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Bericht door Dr. Living Stoned » ma apr 09, 2007 1:23 am

ik snap er geen reet van, Monk :blush:
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Bericht door Monkey Tonk » ma apr 09, 2007 5:43 am

100 inzet op +100 of hoger (underdog). Bijvoorbeeld 100 inzet op +116 hieronder. Betaalt 116.

De favoriet (of meer voor de hand liggende uitkomst) krijgt een negatief nummer. Bijvoorbeeld -111. Dat betekent in dat geval 111 inzetten voor een uitkering van 100. Als het -140 zou zijn, betekent dat 140 inzetten voor een uitkering van 100.

Ik gebruik het voorbeeld van 100 voor het gemak. Dezelfde verhoudingen gelden voor hogere of lagere inzetten. (Na de eerste dag staat de teller op + $203 voor het voorbeeld van 100).

MLB 9 April:
Philadelphia +116
Colorado Over 7.5 runs -111
Cleveland +123

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Bericht door Dubbel » ma apr 09, 2007 5:25 pm

Hm, het begint te dagen. Maar eh, is dit iets dat je bij een bookie speelt of op een website of is het een spel dat je onderling speelt?

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Bericht door Monkey Tonk » di apr 10, 2007 12:18 am

Online books.
(vraag maar via pm als je goede wilt weten, want er zijn een hoop bedriegers)

Vandaag spelen we gelijk.

MLB 9 April:
Philadelphia +116 = L 100
Colorado Over 7.5 runs -111 = W 100
Cleveland +123 = Postponed

Day 1-1
Season record 3-1 +203

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Bericht door Monkey Tonk » di apr 10, 2007 3:13 pm

MLB 10 April:
Arizona -122

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