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Re: Champions League 2019-2020

Bericht door Orange14 » do okt 24, 2019 1:09 pm

I was watching the match on TNT here in the states. I knew right away that there would be a close examination for off sides as all goals are routinely looked at by VAR. On the replay feed they showed us, it looked like off sides by a small amount. We don't know what pictures VAR were using as they have different camera views from those we see. this was as close a call as one will likely ever see. The assistant referee didn't raise his flag as he didn't have a real clear call to make. Ajax have had VAR calls go in their favor in the Eredivisie and it kind of sucks to have one go against them here.

Let's put things in perspective and remember that Ajax lost to Real Madrid at home in the knockout stage last season and look what happened when they went to Madrid. ETH has learned some things last night and he's likely to go to a single DM in the return match and slot van de Beek further back with Promes at #10 and Neres coming in on the wing. Goals will come from that formation!!!
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Bericht door Cruijff » vr nov 08, 2019 11:30 am

Two post-match analysis Chelsea - Ajax (4-4)


(With Rio Ferdinand and Robin van Persie)
Crazy eight goal battle Match Analysis & Lampard reaction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOfBCU2vWyU

Extraordinaire night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I8besfn3sY

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Bericht door SPL » vr nov 08, 2019 12:41 pm

Praise to AZ for doing so well in Europa Cup especially as they play all games away from their home. With PSV and Feyenoord struggling AZ doing good work for Dutch UEFA coefficient table.

This year's champs will automatically qualify and it looks like 2020/21 Champs will do the same. Dutch need to be in the top 10 at the end of this season and are currently 9th and a big gap to 11th.

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Bericht door SPL » vr nov 08, 2019 1:24 pm

Looking at the big incident again slowly ,the ref should have blown when Blind was fouled but let it continue. As for the penalty ,never in a million years and Veltman getting a 2nd yellow a joke.

I'm still disgusted with the ref.

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Bericht door Orange14 » vr nov 08, 2019 1:47 pm

SPL schreef:Looking at the big incident again slowly ,the ref should have blown when Blind was fouled but let it continue. As for the penalty ,never in a million years and Veltman getting a 2nd yellow a joke.

I'm still disgusted with the ref.
Over on the Big Soccer forum there is a referee section with a number of licensed officials participating. New rules on hand ball require a YC if it obstructs a shot on goal. I don't have a quarrel with that as it is mandatory. The instruction to referees is that the hand must be 'making the player bigger' and in that case an argument could be made in favor of Veltman. VAR did not intervene in this part of the play so it was adjudged a deliberate handling. Some of the pundits on ESPN FC also argued against handling but in the end it is what it is.

There was also a consensus that Blind was fouled but not called. I wonder what would have happened if Blind had stayed down (just like the Italians always do) would it have been whistled.

Two games against Chelsea and controversies in each game (Promes 'off sides' in the first one). Ajax just have to step up and win the next two games.

UEFA Coefficient is pretty good right now but if Feyenoord and PSV go out it leaves only AZ and Ajax to keep getting points. PSV were really hurt when they could only draw with Lask at home. They are even on points and behind on goal differential. Feyenoord stand third in their group three behind the leaders and pretty much have to win out in order to have a chance. AZ are in better shape; a draw at home over Partizan Belgrade sends them through and the ManU match doesn't matter. If the Dutch teams keep winning direct qualification will be pretty much assured.
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Bericht door Cruijff » vr nov 08, 2019 2:46 pm

David Neres hurt his knee at the Chelsea game, will be out injured the rest of 2019.....

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Bericht door Amol » vr nov 08, 2019 4:45 pm

That's terrible news as he was just starting to regain his form and starting spot. I think this is an opportunity for Lang to show us what he's got.

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Bericht door Cruijff » do nov 28, 2019 12:45 am

Interesting to read if you can translate this a bit to Dutch:

https://www.vi.nl/pro/analyse/ajax-is-d ... -verslaan-

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Bericht door Ayman » do nov 28, 2019 9:29 am

Potential ties in the knock out stage for Ajax from the other groups that finish runner up: Real Madrid, Tottenham, Dinamo Zagreb/Shaktar/Atlanta, Atletico Madrid, Salzburg/Liverpool, Inter/Dortmund, Lyon/Zenit.

Too early I know. But I would love a match with Tottenham, it would be double revenge, for last season and the Europa league final (against Mourinho), Ajax can lay two ghosts to rests. It's either that or Real Madrid, for the sake of turning the balance of head to head meetings, i.e. Winning more games than losing against them.

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Bericht door Orange14 » vr dec 13, 2019 2:59 pm

Ajax might draw a very dangerous opponent in the Europa League knock out stage. They do have a preferred seed and will host the first match. AZ cannot be an opponent and the remaining possibilities are:
APOEL (CYP)
AZ Alkmaar (NED)
Bayer Leverkusen (GER)*
CFR Cluj (ROU)
Club Brugge (BEL)*
Copenhagen (DEN)
Eintracht Frankfurt (GER)
Getafe (ESP)
Ludogorets (BUL)
Olympiacos (GRE)*
Rangers (SCO)
Roma (ITA)
Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)*
Sporting CP (POR)
Wolfsburg (GER)
Wolves (ENG)
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Bericht door souras84 » zo dec 15, 2019 12:30 am

Pretty sure it'll be Wolves (ENG)
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Bericht door Ayman » zo dec 15, 2019 1:39 am

I would like Rangers or Club Brugge, and at some point I would love it for Ajax to play Man Utd.

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Bericht door SPL » ma dec 16, 2019 12:46 pm

Valencia got Atalanta so had we won the other night we could have got the weakest team.Chelsea get Bayern.

Bet we get a strong team in Europa Cup

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Bericht door Ayman » ma dec 16, 2019 1:20 pm

SPL schreef:Valencia got Atalanta so had we won the other night we could have got the weakest team.Chelsea get Bayern.

Bet we get a strong team in Europa Cup
Ajax got Getafe they are 4th in La Liga

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Bericht door SPL » ma dec 16, 2019 1:29 pm

Hopefully we can beat them ,we could have got much stronger teams .

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Bericht door Manneken Pis » ma dec 16, 2019 4:44 pm

“If I wanted you to understand it, I would have explained it better.”

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Bericht door Manneken Pis » do feb 06, 2020 9:00 am

Well there you go.... De Telegraaf reports that at a referees association get together in Majorca it was admitted that the Chelsea v Ajax debacle was an error. Admission that Danny Blind was fouled in the run up to the two sendings off and the penalty. They also report that the Italian ref has since retired and is on his well deserved pension. The error cost a win bonus, plus qualification bonus worth over 11M€ to the club, plus potential further income in the competition, plus potentially higher transfer fees, although that's obviously an aside to most fans.

https://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/?utm_sou ... um=organic
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Bericht door SPL » do feb 06, 2020 2:19 pm

UEFA should pay us 10m euros.Worst referring decision I have ever seen in over 50 years of watching.

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Bericht door Amol » do feb 06, 2020 5:24 pm

We were up 4-2 at that point in the game and in complete control. Chelsea was at risk of being blown away with 25 minutes to go.

The 10 million does nothing for me and it won't happen anyway.

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Bericht door Orange14 » do feb 06, 2020 5:31 pm

Yes the decision was completely botched by the CR but stuff happens. I've had my heart broken too many times watching sporting events and was more crushed by getting knocked out of the CL last Spring by Spurs.
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Bericht door Amol » za aug 08, 2020 3:08 am

Both Madrid and Juve dumped out of the CL in one night. Brings me great joy :smallgrin.gif:

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Bericht door SPL » za aug 08, 2020 1:07 pm

Lyon through to last 8 and Napoli need to beat Barca.If either win the CL we have to qualify.

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Bericht door kezme44 » za aug 08, 2020 5:02 pm

lyon play man city next, so they’re out. I think Napoli gets eliminated today

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Bericht door Amol » zo aug 09, 2020 1:07 am

Yeah Napoli is out and Lyon will have a serious battle against Man City. Bayern absolutely destroyed Chelsea today. We all knew Chelsea weren't that great and I'm still super upset with the way that game was stolen from us.

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Bericht door SPL » zo aug 09, 2020 11:14 am

Agree we were robbed in that Chelsea game.Cannot see Lyon get past Man City or indeed win the CL.

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