22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

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22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door Orange14 » di jan 17, 2023 2:53 pm

Feyenoord up away in the final match of the first half of the season. Must win game for Ajax if they hope to contend. My gut feeling is that AZ might just win the league this season.
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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door GangstaRiB » wo jan 18, 2023 10:21 am

Ajax is in shambles. There is no reason to hope for a good result. The only thing that can help is that Feyenoord will feel the pressure of being the title favorite. But I must admit... Arne Slot seems to have a good grip on his team so I don't see that Feyenoord will 'choke'.

In the previous game against Twente, it were Ajax players like Bassey and Sanchez that seemed nervous! In the Arena! And now they travel to a hostile De Kuip... they shit their pants. :smallgrin.gif:

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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door SPL » wo jan 18, 2023 1:01 pm

Sanchez and Bassey are so moderate I dont think Regeer or Aertssen would do worse.

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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door Orange14 » wo jan 18, 2023 7:27 pm

Feyenoord are without Timber and Trauner because of long term injuries.
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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door Tom_ » wo jan 18, 2023 10:28 pm

When was the last time Ajax won a big match? I honestly can’t remember.

I also don’t see any reason to think they’ll beat Feyenoord. Feyenoord are in form, and they move the ball forward quickly which will probably be a problem for the shaky Ajax defense.

Daley Blind has just shared his complaints about the club in the media so if Ajax lose badly to Feyenoord the management might be under a lot of pressure.

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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door kezme44 » vr jan 20, 2023 5:15 pm

schreuder saying this game is not a crucial one :smallgrin.gif:
sounds like someone expecting a loss and building a storyline for got getting fired

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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door Tom_ » zo jan 22, 2023 2:09 pm

The lineup that’s been announced has a back 4 of Sánchez, Álvarez, Timber and Bassey. I guess Taylor will be the most defensive midfielder. I’ll just say I’m not expecting a clean sheet…

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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door SPL » zo jan 22, 2023 2:18 pm

Easy to say just Bergwijn Brobbey Lucca and Wijndal not starting we have such a small squad.I have got mola tv which is official Uk provider so should get the game.

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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door GangstaRiB » zo jan 22, 2023 3:22 pm

Ajax is hurting my eyes. 1-0 down. Poor game so far, but Ajax is nowhere really. So many unforced errors.

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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door Tom_ » zo jan 22, 2023 3:24 pm

They are so bad on the ball. I honestly can’t remember an Ajax team as bad at passing and build up as this. They’d be better off putting Lucca and Brobbey up front and getting Rulli to play long balls.

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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door Orange14 » zo jan 22, 2023 3:25 pm

the midfield is getting overrun constantly. Tadic really can't do anything these days and Bergwijn can't possibly do much worse. We paid big money for him and Brobbey and they both need to be on the field. Klaassen has to come off and drop Kudus back to MF. Taylor is just awful and Fitz-Jim should be on to at least provide some passing. Other than Sanchez slipping on the challenge before the goal the back line has at least done a decent job. alvarez and Timber on YCs is not good and one of them will be sent off in all likelihood.
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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door SPL » zo jan 22, 2023 3:26 pm

Finally watching on a proper tv provider ,mola tv, but what I am watching is poor.Kudus a couple of moments before Ht but Ajax are very poor. MF non existant.

If we get a point we will be lucky

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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door Tom_ » zo jan 22, 2023 3:28 pm

Yep, in addition to both CBs the DMF also has a yellow, they are all under pressure to stop attacks so I also reckon one of them is going to get a second

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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door kezme44 » zo jan 22, 2023 3:34 pm

tadic can’t even beat the first man anymore on a corner or free kick that he takes, let alone a defender. bassey panics every time he gets the ball and usually loses it or put someone else in pressure. not sure why everything is coming down the left side when those two bungle every attack. kudus looked most awake when he had the ball but not much coming through midfield

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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door kezme44 » zo jan 22, 2023 4:06 pm

let’s go!!!! finally some pressure and we score

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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door GangstaRiB » zo jan 22, 2023 4:32 pm

1-1.

Doesn’t help us at all. Very poor game. Very poor Ajax. And we still scored the equalizer and Feyenoord couldn’t do more. Says enough about Feyenoord too.

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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door Orange14 » zo jan 22, 2023 4:45 pm

Amazing that Ajax got a draw and when I saw the statistics, I was dumbfounded. It said that Ajax had 57% possession and teams were equal on shots. That sure fooled me. The Dutch NT MFs for Ajax were all pretty awful though Davy One Goal did manage a shot off a Feyenoord defender to even the game up. I'm sure Schreuder will live to coach another game. The Ajax back line all were solid with lots of good interventions when it looked like Feyenoord were creating danger. Bergwijn seemed to make a difference coming on with Tadic moving to the right side.

Player Ratings:

Rulli (6.5) - had no chance on the goal and missed badly on a punch, his distribution was decent as the ball kept coming back to him
Sanchez (6.5) - slipped trying to intervene once but was otherwise more than decent
Alvarez (7) - really strong game other than the YC he picked up and was constantly defending well in the box
Timber (7.5) - excellent defending and had one good run into the box in the first half; maybe the best Ajax player today
Bassey (7) - worked incredibly hard and tried to overlap as much as possible but Tadic is too slow to make things dangerous on that side
Taylor (4) - really not very good in possession
Berghuis (3.5) - poorest player on the field
Klaassen (4.5) - only positive was the play that led to the own goal otherwise mediocre
Concecao (4) - very poor and rightfully subbed off
Kudus (6) - had a glorious chance to score late in the 2nd half but was wasted up front in the first
Tadic (6) - better play when he moved to the right side as he could not beat his man on the left
Bergwijn (6) - added some danger to the Ajax attack
Brobbey (5.5) - didn't get much action with the ball
Wijndal (NR) - on late for Timber

Two winnable matches coming up against Volendam and Excelsior this Thursday and next Sunday. Ajax need to put together a string of wins in order to get back on track.
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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door SPL » zo jan 22, 2023 4:47 pm

Well at least we gota draw and were better in teh 2nd half although we may be poor Feyenoord are not much better. 4 or 5 average sides at the top but as Schreuder looks like staying he must play players in their right position and start with a striker.

Defence held up well and Rulli with some good saves .Jurrien went off and hope he is ok as we only have Rensch and Wijndal as defence cover.

Great to have a proper TV stream , should have found this earlier in the season.

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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door SPL » zo jan 22, 2023 5:16 pm

MF was poor but at least in the 2nd half Bergwijn was on the left ,Tadic on the right ,although only for the final 20 mins was Brobbey on and Kudus in his correct no 10 spot.

Looking at our bench we really do not have enough numbers. Fitz-Jim should get more playing time ,although not sure today was the right time, but Taylor and Berghuis were dreadful and apart from the goal Klaassen dreadful. Tadic cannot be allowed to play 90 mins anymore.

Dont expect Schreuder to get sacked but under him and the overall weakness of the summer signings I cannot see us being champs.

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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door Tom_ » ma jan 23, 2023 2:20 am

The saddest part for me was watching them try to build up from the back in the first half and not make it past the middle of the pitch.

It’s how Ajax has always played but this team is not equipped to do it against good pressing sides.

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Re: 22 JAN 2023; Feyenoord - Ajax; Match Day 17

Bericht door SPL » ma jan 23, 2023 1:05 pm

Reading an article and it seems that the Ajax mental coach talked to them on Friday and they appear to have lost faith with Schreuder and the staff. They did save his career yesterday but professional pride was the reason they did not want to lose ,plus Feyenoord are not much better than us.

The next 8 games are against sides outside the top 4 and we should be beating them but Go Ahead ,Vitesse, Emmen and NEC should easily have been beaten.

Hopefully we may even beat Volendam on Thursday.

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