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Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 7:15 pm
door Cruijff
Cruijff schreef:King Litti schreef:So, who's the right wing? No one? Will Bosz go in a different approach than the ajax standard 4-3-3. Gamble if it doesn't pay off. And any way why play defense ahead, since we need to score at least one goal tonight.
I suppose that El Ghazi being that selfish last week even had a negative result for the team. So we did not play with 10 against 11 but with 9.5 against 11.
It is normal that you kick a guy like him out of the team and with our upcoming backs running forward I expect more crosses to our strikers than when on paper it would be 4-3-3 including El Ghazi.
GREAT TRIBUTE they are bringing to Johan Cruyff over there in Greece!

Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 7:19 pm
door SPL
very interesting basically 6 defenders,2 midfielders neither creative and 2 teenager strikers. Bold, lets see.(With Sanchez not yet considered our only sub defender is de Ligt ,not 17 until next week. I bet Fosu-Mensah would not have made our subs bench aged 16 )
cricfree have streams ,last week I got a very good picture .
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 7:27 pm
door Cruijff
SPL schreef:very interesting basically 6 defenders,2 midfielders neither creative and 2 teenager strikers. Bold, lets see.(With Sanchez not yet considered our only sub defender is de Ligt ,not 17 until next week. I bet Fosu-Mensah would not have made our subs bench aged 16 )
Yes now we have 17 year old De Ligt on the bench and also some attackers so that with only one substitute you can directly switch back to 4-3-3.
In my opinion it's still having guts putting both Dolberg (18) and Cassierra (19) in the attack.
SPL schreef:cricfree have streams ,last week I got a very good picture .
Good for you.

Have fun!

Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 7:35 pm
door Orange14
the Westermann transfer is not looking to good right now.
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 7:35 pm
door SPL
Westermann a howler so we are 1-0 down already
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 7:58 pm
door Orange14
Two good plays by Cillessen or it would be 3-0
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 8:07 pm
door Amol
Looks like we have successfully recreated the defensive circus from the last time we played there. Passing between Cillessen <-> Westerman is so scary right now.
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 8:13 pm
door Tom_
Whoa, this is bad. Hard to tell exactly what's going on with the crappy stream... but it could be 2 or 3 nil to PAOK from what I've seen.
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 8:16 pm
door Tom_
Free penalty! Might be what we need to get going... "anyone can take it, just not Westermann" says the commentator, and Klaassen nails it.
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 8:16 pm
door Amol
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 8:19 pm
door Amol
The players don't seem to understand this system either. Any bets on El Ghazi coming in for Westerman at half time and us switching to a 4-3-3?
We just need one more goal and they would have to score two. Let go boys!
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 8:23 pm
door Orange14
I spent most of the half bouncing around trying to find a stable stream which was very difficult. Peter Bosz must thing he is Antonio Conte by going to a 3-5-3. Unfortunately he doesn't have the Juventus back 3 to make this work. Tete is worthless as a wing back as he doesn't know what to do. Dijks did get a couple of aimless crosses in. the midfield is too slow, just like last year and the two up front had little to do as they never saw the ball. Cillessen came up big twice to keep the score down and then the penalty call just before halftime. Anthony Taylor is a good match official and if he saw a penalty it must have been one. I couldn't tell by the bad feed that I had. Props to Klassen for burying the PK>
Unlike last week there is absolutely no pressure of the ball when PAOK have it. I guess everyone is too concerned about the new formation and afraid of losing their man. Westermann had two really bad plays in the half, one on the goal and the other by letting the striker get in on Cillessen on a counter. I will be surprised if Bosz stays with this formation.
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 8:26 pm
door saddlerian
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 8:28 pm
door saddlerian
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 8:32 pm
door SPL
back in it with the penalty but until then we were woeful. They could have scored 3 more
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 8:37 pm
door Cruijff
Amol schreef:The players don't seem to understand this system either. Any bets on El Ghazi coming in for Westerman at half time and us switching to a 4-3-3?
Has not so much to do with the system, with formation, tactics or the ambiance in the stadium.
Within 2,5 minutes Viergever and Veltway give possession away three times very easy. Completely unnecessary they give away a corner and then everyone is still asleep.
A bloody shame that when this is your profession you don't have even a little bit of focus.
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 8:43 pm
door Amol
Cruijff schreef:Amol schreef:The players don't seem to understand this system either. Any bets on El Ghazi coming in for Westerman at half time and us switching to a 4-3-3?
Has not so much to do with the system, with formation, tactics or the ambiance in the stadium.
Within 2,5 minutes Viergever and Veltway give possession away three times very easy. Completely unnecessary they give away a corner and then everyone is still asleep.
A bloody shame that when this is your profession you don't have even a little bit of focus.
I'm not blaming the system for the goal which we conceded. Its when we're going forward.
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 8:44 pm
door Ayman
Greats save from Cillessen from th free kick. Am attacking player needs to come on for Westerman . Change the formation Damn it!
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 9:03 pm
door Orange14
I think this one goes to extra time and maybe penalties. Neither team looks like they can score.
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 9:12 pm
door Tom_
We just look super sloppy. Bad passes, fumbled touches, missed clearances... It looks like a pre season game. Unfortunately you don't get a second chance for the CL.
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 9:12 pm
door Amol
Orange14 schreef:I think this one goes to extra time and maybe penalties. Neither team looks like they can score.
Westerman is doing his best to make sure that they score. He's reminding me of Wielaert now.
Change to 4-3-3 please. The players are not understanding any of the passing lanes in this system. They don't even know where the passes should go to.
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 9:13 pm
door Ayman
Uh oh. Former Feyenoord player Biseswar comes on as a substitute
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 9:16 pm
door Ayman
YaY. Klaassen scored
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 9:16 pm
door Orange14
That came out of nowhere!
Re: PAOK Saloniki - Ajax CL Qualifier
Geplaatst: wo aug 03, 2016 9:16 pm
door Amol
WTF - was looking away when Klassen scored that goal somewhow