Players Leaving Ajax

[Orange14]

A bid of 30m plus would see Ajax sell him this week but who would pay that?

Man City they have about 10 forwards and a small club not in Europe.

MAN u and Chelsea could afford him but it is unlikely .

Inter possible but no vacancies at striker.

AC Milan Haven't got that sort of cash at present

Real NO

Finally Barca but they have no vacancies in their forwards and not sure they have that spare cash having bought Zlatan.

Solid assessment. I don't think Suarez is leaving in this transfer window. January is another question especially if teams with €s have injury problems at the forward position. Milan didn't even have Huntelaar on the game day roster today (probably because he just joined the club). ManU is the one team I worry about (though they did score today). Suarez could be considered a Tevez replacement (plus they have money from the CR transfer).

[ZoefdeHaas]

Huntelaar wasn't on cause of disciplinary reasons.
Either way it's clear no team can afford or need Suarez at this point, let's hope he stays the whole year.

We should be worried about getting rid of our fringe players. They really aren't good at all huh...

[SPL]

Man U play 4-4-2 with Rooney Berbatov or Owen.so i would not see him fitting in there.

[Frans]

A bid of 30m plus would see Ajax sell him this week but who would pay that?

Man City they have about 10 forwards and a small club not in Europe.

MAN u and Chelsea could afford him but it is unlikely .

Inter possible but no vacancies at striker.

AC Milan Haven't got that sort of cash at present

Real NO

Finally Barca but they have no vacancies in their forwards and not sure they have that spare cash having bought Zlatan.

Maybe Bayern will get desperate...

[aveslacker]

A bid of 30m plus would see Ajax sell him this week but who would pay that?

Man City they have about 10 forwards and a small club not in Europe.

MAN u and Chelsea could afford him but it is unlikely .

Inter possible but no vacancies at striker.

AC Milan Haven't got that sort of cash at present

Real NO

Finally Barca but they have no vacancies in their forwards and not sure they have that spare cash having bought Zlatan.

Exactly.

[Venezuelan Ajacied]

Its amazing how everyone (including me) has this psychological scar ever since the zlatan fiasco

Relax mates, Luis aint going nowhere.....for now

[Orange14]

A bid of 30m plus would see Ajax sell him this week but who would pay that?

Man City they have about 10 forwards and a small club not in Europe.

MAN u and Chelsea could afford him but it is unlikely .

Inter possible but no vacancies at striker.

AC Milan Haven't got that sort of cash at present

Real NO

Finally Barca but they have no vacancies in their forwards and not sure they have that spare cash having bought Zlatan.

Maybe Bayern will get desperate...

Pretty amazing that they have yet to win a match. Van Gaal must be wondering if he made the correct move! They also should never have let Podolski go; but then that because of Klinsman.

[SPL]

Is the transfer dealine still midnight 31 August ?? I only ask as England have as usual made their own rules and extend theirs to 1st SEPT due to 31 being a Bank Holiday

[orange goblin]

oleguer very very near to aek athens

[souras84]

oleguer very very near to aek athens

yes yes yes

[orange goblin]

you say this as a supporter of ajax or as a fan of aek?mmmmm....the first I am sure!

[shinnyplayer]

Is the transfer dealine still midnight 31 August ?? I only ask as England have as usual made their own rules and extend theirs to 1st SEPT due to 31 being a Bank Holiday

KNVB announced today that the transfer deadline has been extented to 18:00, 1 September.

[Orange14]

Is the transfer dealine still midnight 31 August ?? I only ask as England have as usual made their own rules and extend theirs to 1st SEPT due to 31 being a Bank Holiday

KNVB announced today that the transfer deadline has been extented to 18:00, 1 September.

As I read the note, it is only for players transfered to and from England and does not apply to other UEFA countries.

[SPL]

I wondered why our youngsters are not attracting many teams for loans and asked are they crap .

Well Volendam are selling some guy to Willem and want Sarpong on loan as a replacement.that is quite depressing that only Volendam evidently want him , although Roda have been mentioned.

Does look as if Oleguer will leave but I would rather have kept him and let Wielaert go .

I do not expect to see Kennedy, Lindgren or Gabri go by next week so with all the competition in midfield maybe the club should let Anita go out on loan . Willem were asking .

[souras84]

you say this as a supporter of ajax or as a fan of aek?mmmmm....the first I am sure!

I am fully commited to Ajax since 1995. I used to support AEK when Nikolaidis played there, cause he is from my hometown, but stopped in 2003. However I still have a place in my heart for that team but its AJAX AJAX AJAX all my life in better and in worse... although nowdays its for the worse

[SPL]

AEK want Oleguer on loan I am not sure but I believe they cannot afford his full wages. This is not really acceptable as this guy is still good enough. 2 days a go I read we would get 1.2 m euros now we may get nothing and end up paying that in wages.This is no way to run a football club.

I believe our problems stem from losing a lot of players 3/4 years ago on Bosmans and with not alot of
local talent ready we went out and paid over the odds for moderate players who cost a lot in wages.
These players Luque Oleguer Kennedy Rommendahl Ogararu Silva are not deemed good enough and thus we are left with trying to get rid of them. No big clubs want them no one will pay a transfer fee and we are left with loaning them out to clubs who cannot afford their full wages. We are paying some of Luque's wages otherwise why did he not go for free! Rommendahl was at NEC and they in turn now want Kennedy. In neither case can NEC pay the full wages.

Our whole transfer policy needs sorting. We have paid well over the odds for Sulejmani as we all know.
Aissati is a lightweight and cannot play 2 games in a row . Cvitanich was injured in every game he played last season.( Yes I am going over the top a bit)

We have had all summer to bring in a decent defender and have had since last January to sign a striker
and it looks as if we will sign any old player at the last moment. A 28 year old striker form Zurich!!!

Having gone 5 years without a title I would rather see us play our own youth than some of these crap signings. Zeegelaar looks good when you consider he has played few reserve games and is just out of the youth team. Donald missed all last season.We need to bring in some good players and it is about time we went and found Berg, Elm,Alves , and pay little to Swedish clubs rather than wait until they have had a couple of years in Holland and pay over the odds.6m euros for Suarez was a bargin so was 9m for KJH ,16m for Sulejmani !!

As for paying 3m euros to get Lindgren back when he went for nothing 2years before , words fail me.

Sorry for the waffle. What i am trying to say is that we need to use our own youth and scout better for raw talent rather than pay over the odds for older crap players.

Our last 2 signings are Wielaert and Atouba neither are good enough defenders imo.

[Orange14]

If we can't get even a € for Oleguer, I say we keep him. He is the only possible substitute in the central defense that we have right now. With respect to eveyone else, they simple are not of sufficient quality for any team to pay money for given their current salaries. I think the whole financial situation is affecting every football team outside the big eight teams. We need to learn our lesson as well (one would have hoped that we learned it four years ago, but that was a different time and management). I agree with SPL that when we do go into the transfer market we purchase on the cheap and for players who will see more than one year of first team football (no more Wielaert purchases please!!!). From all counts we do have considerable youth talent and these players should be the core of the team going forward (isn't this what the club has historically been known for? At least it is what the Ajax team website says!!!). Don't think there is much that can be done about Sulejmani; we probably have to keep him and hope he gets it all together. Don't think he has much transfer value at this point.

[orange goblin]

The last is that cvitanich is going on loan to san lorenzo in argentina. is a loan with an option to buy and a member of the san lorenzo board talks like this deal is almost done. what can I say? best for him and maybe for ajax if this could lead to free some space to buy the famous two players missing (CB, CF).
I hope not being boring if I do a little update on what seem to be our movements in getting rid of some players.
It seems that the following are going (all on loan!!!!), let's see who has shown interest:

oleguer: aek (or paok)
cvitanich: san lorenzo
ogararu or silva: only god knows
kennedy: nec, but I am sure that now I'll definitely stay
sno: vitesse maybe
bodul: sparta
sarpong: heracles, volendam
vd heijden: rkc, heracles, groningen
martina: reserves (failed to win a contract at as bari)
blind: reserves? no news about this guy

not a bad work (the squad would be restricted to 23) if it will bring us 1 single euro to reinvest. let's hope we get rid at least of some wages to use for the famous 2 players we need so badly.

[SPL]

So Cvitanich is likely to go on loan, what great business from Ajax . Paid 6m euros and 1 year later let him go home for nothing we will be paying a good bit of his wages for this next year and given most Argentinian clubs have no money we may be lucky and get say 1m euros for him in a years time.

[Ajaxfanuk]

DISCLAIMER I love Ajax, just want everyone to know that my love for this club knows no bounds and I will follow them til the end...but

SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS FOOTBALL CLUB...we can't sell anyone, we can't buy anyone, we cant even get the youngsters out on loan. I think Demy was a good signing but other than that I cant remember a good bit of business being done by this club since Suarez. We sell our best players, buy shit ones to replace them, play people out of position, change formations and then the club insiders shrug their shoulders and wonder why we haven't won anything for god knows how long. Ajax aren't a big club anymore things won't just happen for us. AZ won the league last year because they took good players and made a great consistant team. We've got great players but I think they are lazy. The management are clearly oblivious to the fact we're short some decent defenders and a striker or two...so they are gonna send Cvitanich out on loan...this just typifies why we're probably not going to win anything for a very long time. We're the best football team in the Netherlands but we're being managed by dumbarses...I miss being 7 years old watching the 95 champions league final and knowing then that Ajax were the best team in Europe, the world. The noughties have been dark dark times.

I want my club back :(

Sorry for the rant...I've just snapped :D

[Jojo]

I totally agree with you. Would just add that not only we can't get any good players to sign for us it has been a while since we signed a hot young prospect from abroad, that could become our next wonderkid. Our scouting is... well it seems we don't have that anymore

[aveslacker]

Agreed. I get unbelievably tired of hearing about some mid-table eredivisie outfit losing a key player to some bigger club only to watch them turn around and buy some highly-touted Slav, Scandinavian or Latin American. Why can't we do that? It frustrates me no end.

[Orange14]

Agreed. I get unbelievably tired of hearing about some mid-table eredivisie outfit losing a key player to some bigger club only to watch them turn around and buy some highly-touted Slav, Scandinavian or Latin American. Why can't we do that? It frustrates me no end.

We did by Cvitanich. I remember how excited eveyone was in watching YouTube clips of goals he had scored in Argentina. I think one reason we may not scout young players in those countries is that for better or worse the team relies on its youth system to produce quality players. Maybe we have hit a bit of a dry patch in that regard but one can look at the players who have transferred away over the last several years: Sneijder, Heitinga, Babel, Maduro, etc. Had we kept those players things might be a lot different today. Would this system be as good as it is if the club made the choice to go the scouting route and bring in a lot of foreign talent (similar to what Arsenal does)? I don't know the answer to that. Until some sanity comes to UEFA football, the team will always be in a position of having to sell players to maintain a healthy balance sheet. My hope is that Platini will prevail and bring some semblance of sanity back by controlling the movement of underage players and figuring how to deal with the crazy financing of the system. It was laughable to read yesterday that Abramovich was going to work with Platini on this only to see a little later in the day that Chelsea were going to offer €65 million for Ribery. Crazy times.

[cdnajaxfan]

I think that it is clear the we have to re-build our club. How?

1) Start using our own Youth System more instead of getting crappy players that have no re-sale value.

2) Start buying players from leagues like Scandanavia, Central/Eastern Europe, MLS (yes, there are some great players for cheap), and Africa. South America is a possibility but many players are owned by conglmerates like Carlos Tevez was.

3) Sign the agreement of co-operation with Barcelona. We get their players that they can't fit, they get ours when we are done with them. Sounds like it could work to me.

My 2 cents.

[Orange14]

One other thing that I forgot to post about. I had the day off from work and watched the UEFA match between Barca and Shakhtar. the Ukraine side must have started four Brazilians and had another one or two on the bench (could be slightly wrong about those numbers). How is it that this club can get that kind of talent. they don't have the oil money that some of the Russian oligarchs do and the Ukraine cannot be as pleasant a place to live as Amsterdam! Also saw that Vagner Love the Brazilian who is playing in Russia is being loaned back to Palmeiras as he doesn't like Russia and there is concern he might not be on the Brazil NT for next year's WC because of this (I beleive he was the leading scorer in the Russian league last year). Too bad he didn't come to Ajax.